(NAME-MCE) Name-mce Digest, Vol 974, Issue 1
dorinda moreno
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> 1. Re: Reflections on the Future of NAME (Cathryn Teasley Severino)
> 2. Re: Reflections on the Future of NAME...Continuing the
> Discussion from the 2008 Town Hall Meeting (Dr. Andrew Jackson, Sr.)
> 3. Re: Reflections on the Future of NAME...Continuing the
> Discussion from the 2008 Town Hall Meeting (Dr. Andrew Jackson, Sr.)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 12:40:58 +0100
> From: Cathryn Teasley Severino <cathryn at udc.es>
> Subject: Re: (NAME-MCE) Reflections on the Future of NAME
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> Dear Christine,
>
> I cannot express to you enough appreciation for your taking the time
> and making the effort to write and share such a sincere and
> eye-opening missive. All these years (since 1994 or so) I have
> remained on the periphery of NAME, which is why this kind of "insider"
> information comes as news to me. But despite my marginal involvement,
> I have caught the occasional glimpse of NAME's internal struggles and
> conflicts. Such conflicts, as you obviously already know, are not only
> natural when people converge around issues, but are even creative: if
> handled respectfully and nonviolently, our necessary attention to
> these kinds of values-loaded conflicts can lead to new realizations,
> resolutions, and outcomes (Johann Galtung [1996] has a lot to say
> about this creative aspect of conflict [http://www.transcend.org/]).
>
> I see your reflection here as attempting to do just that: to open up
> this highly significant controversy to a more broadly-based process of
> deliberation, and to new outcomes (even though the ultimate decisions
> rest with the board members). All I can say in response, and from
> afar, is that *all* social markers of group identity and difference
> (race, sexual orientation, age, class, gender, ability, language,
> religion, ethnicity, stature, weight, etc.) *must* be addressed in
> multicultural education. The reasoning here is that such markers, as
> scholars such as Cameron McCarthy (1998)
> [http://www.tc.columbia.edu/calendar/index.htm?EventID=5674] or Amy
> Gutmann (2003)
> [http://www.tc.columbia.edu/calendar/index.htm?EventID=5674] ably
> point out, can lead to group identity, and identity is, in essence,
> *cultural* .
>
> Anyway, thanks so much, Christine, for this carefully and respectfully
> thought-out call for debate.
>
> -Galtung, J. (1996). _Peace By Peaceful Means: Peace and Conflict,
> Development and Civilization_. Oslo: International Peace Research
> Institute.
> -Gutmann, A. (2003). _Identity in Democracy_. Princeton University Press.
> -McCarthy, C. (1998). _The Uses of Culture: Education and the Limits
> of Ethnic Affiliation_. New York: Routledge.
>
> (In case anyone is interested, I am white and was born in 1961 and
> raised in the San Francisco Bay Area. I am of Italo-Anglo and
> middle-class extraction, and was brought up Catholic but am now
> atheist. I attended UC Berkeley as an undergrad and majored in
> sociology and then as a grad student of education. I then taught
> English as a second language to immigrant students in an elementary
> school in Calif for some years, and in the meantime married a Spaniard
> and later moved to north-western Spain in 1991, where I have lived
> ever since. I am now trying to finish writing my dissertation in
> Spanish on critical anti-bias teacher education. My distance with
> respect to NAME is mainly physical (I live too far away), but probably
> also ideological, although this does not mean that I by any means
> underestimate the valuable, evolving project that NAME represents.
> Much of the info sent my way through NAME has been highly relevant to
> my own work here in Spain -- I teach one course on Peace Ed. and
> another on School Administration to prospective teachers and social
> workers in the educational field, and I fully integrate multi- and
> cross-cultural issues into my pedagogy.)
>
> Un saludo colectivo,
>
> Cathryn
>
> We don't see things as they are; we see them as we are.
> -Ana?s Nin
>
> ...............................................................................
> Cathryn Teasley
> Adjunct Professor (Profesora Asociada)
> Depto. de Pedagox?a e Did?ctica
> Facultade de CC. da Educaci?n
> Universidade da Coru?a
> Campus de Elvi?a, s/n
> 15071 A Coru?a Spain
> Tel. 981 16 70 00, ext. 4659
> http://www.udc.es/dep/pdce/Cata/CV_Cata.htm
>
> ...............................................................................
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 13:12:05 -0500
> From: "Dr. Andrew Jackson, Sr." <axj119 at psu.edu>
> Subject: Re: (NAME-MCE) Reflections on the Future of NAME...Continuing
> the Discussion from the 2008 Town Hall Meeting
> To: Christine Clark <chriseclark at mac.com>
> Cc: Discussion Group <name-mce at nameorg.org>, NAME-MCE
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> This is an ongoing issue which can't be resolved over night. We just have
> to
> struggle with it.
> Even President elect Barack Obama can't solve this ongoing silent issue!
>
> On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 10:25 PM, Christine Clark <chriseclark at mac.com>
> wrote:
> >
> Dear NAME Family,
> >
> >I am writing to follow up on the Town Hall Meeting conversation begun
> >at the 2008 NAME Conference. In a way, I am writing to follow up on
> >the myriad conversations that have taken place at every NAME
> >Conference and every NAME Board Meeting since I joined NAME in 1993.
> >
> >After the most recent Town Hall Meeting, I had a somewhat challenging
> >follow up conversation with an outgoing board member--someone with
> >whom I think I basically agree with about the politics of
> >multicultural education--including how these politics are impacting
> >the NAME board and related organizational health--but with whom I have
> >always had a strained interpersonal relationship. Sometimes, it is
> >the tension part of dynamic tension that makes us act--and that is the
> >case here. I am compelled to write this because of the failure to
> >communicate that occurred between me and this outgoing board member a
> >few weeks ago.
> >
> >When I joined the NAME board in 1996 (I think), there were some
> >complex organizational dynamics at play--a tension between white women
> >and black men about how work got done in NAME, as well as a tension
> >between founders and other board members also about how work got done
> >in NAME--there was some overlap between these tensions, but some
> >differences in them as well. Over my time on the board these tensions
> >became less intense as the board became more diverse, as
> >organizational decisions were made to ensure that diversity continued,
> >and as founders became more visibly actively engaged. As many of you
> >know, I fought for things while I was on the board and, in so doing,
> >left more than one board meeting in tears because of how those fights
> >made me feel about NAME and about myself. I had some work to do on me
> >and NAME had some work to do without me--so after my term ended, I
> >dedicated myself to supporting NAME in other ways. No matter how
> >frustrated I have been with NAME, I have stayed involved, and actively
> >so.
> >
> >Before I joined the NAME board, I understand that there were
> >challenging board discussions that led up to sexual orientation
> >finally being added to the organizational mission statement. While I
> >was on the board, but more since I left, I know that there have been
> >some members of the organization who have gone so far as to consult
> >civil rights attorneys to see if, through a loop hole in the by-laws,
> >sexual orientation could be dropped from the NAME mission, and some
> >members of the board who have suggested that the multicultural
> >education of children has nothing to do with sexual orientation. I
> >have heard NAME board members and organizational members who are
> >eloquent in expressing their profound critical consciousness about
> >issues of race and racism, suddenly unable discuss issues of sexual
> >orientation with the same justice-loving spirit because of what "their
> >pastor" said.
> >
> >I have also heard NAME members and board members suggest that NAME
> >founders and, more generally, older people, perhaps especially older
> >black people in NAME, do not "do" anything and, further, have
> >"never"
> >done anything of value or import to the field or to the organization.
> >
> >While I feel despair when I hear these things being said, I know that
> >my NAME friends, some of them my closest NAME friends, are some of the
> >worst offenders on all fronts--my NAME friends are, in fact,
> >homophobic, heterosexist, racist, and agist. The truth is, I am too--
> >I would venture to assert that we all are. What makes us different--
> >as NAME people--from the rest of the ists in the world, is that we
> >came to multicultural education and to NAME because, ostensibly, we
> >recognized the impact of isms on ourselves and others, that this
> >impact was antithetical to justice, and that we could do something to
> >stop this impact and facilitate justice--that we could move ourselves
> >and others to resist and reject these isms and build anew through
> >multicultural education.
> >
> >I am acutely aware that while all issues of majority/minority
> >differences and related prejudice, discrimination, and oppression
> >share certain elements, they are also very different. I understand
> >that it may make movement with respect to sexual orientation more
> >difficult for some if we draw comparisons between the experiences of
> >prejudice and discrimination that people face on the basis of sexual
> >orientation to those that people face on the basis of race. To be
> >sure there are comparisons to be drawn, but if in drawing those
> >comparisons we alienate those who might otherwise become allies, we
> >need to look for alternative arguments to bring folks along--yes, even
> >inside NAME. Isn't that what we do as multicultural educators?
> >
> >I want to acknowledge that I have probably worked harder to build and
> >maintain relationships with founders, older folks, older black folks,
> >and others who struggle with the sexual orientation issue, more than I
> >have with the younger, generally lighter skinned folks (at least those
> >who have continued to attend NAME) who eschew the contributions of
> >NAME elders and seem, to me, to dismiss the obvious link between race
> >and age in assessing these contributions. So, on the one hand, I have
> >prioritized relationships on the basis of affinity for the race-based
> >dimension of multicultural education, but within these relationships,
> >I have pushed folks--sometimes pretty hard--around the sexual
> >orientation issue. On the other hand, I have not made the same effort
> >to engage, in many cases other white people, on the basis of affinity
> >for the sexual orientation-based dimension of multicultural education,
> >and then, while engaged on this topic, push them--with equal fervor--
> >on issues of race, especially from a generational point of entry into
> >debate. I have work to do to honor my commitments to both race and
> >sexual orientation in relationship to my NAME involvements.
> >
> >I also want to mention that I do not believe that the sexual
> >orientation/race schism in NAME or generally is as clear cut as the
> >preceding paragraphs may make it sound. For purposes of discussion
> >here I am sure I have oversimplified it, though not intentionally so.
> >So, if you have depth to add to the conversation here, by all means
> >add it. In writing this I am mindful that no matter how hard I try to
> >be comprehensive in my analysis, I will inevitably miss important
> >points, so please, help me by raising them in reciprocal dialogue.
> >
> >As alluded to above, many people--and many of them people of color--
> >have come to NAME with high expectations and end up walking away in
> >frustration either because of the homophobia and heterosexism OR
> >because of the attention to sexual orientation. We only scratched the
> >surface of this at the Town Hall Meeting, but we need to dig into it
> >much more deeply because if NAME does not successful deal with the
> >meaningful integration of this issue into our organizational practice,
> >we will fail as a multicultural organization.
> >
> >While it is true we may fail for other reasons more related to our
> >failure to grow from an idealistic grassroots childhood into a
> >sophisticated non-profit adulthood (another conversation altogether),
> >
> >part of our waning attendance is because we have not figured out how
> >to DO what we as multicultural educators SAY--we talk our walk very
> >well at least in compartmentalized ways, but we have yet to truly walk
> >our talk--we have the theory down pretty well, but not the practice.
> >I can talk about race and racism at the most sophisticated levels, yet
> >I do not, as alluded to above, exert myself to the extent that I could
> >to engage other white folks at NAME in the examination of these issues
> >as they impact our organizational dynamics. Too, while my very best
> >friend in the world is gay, I do not exert myself to the extent that I
> >could to engage those most hostile to his presence, many of them
> >people of color in leadership roles in NAME, in the effort to make
> >NAME a more affirming place for him to be--yet I implore him to attend
> >the conference every year. So even those of us who have come to NAME
> >and have stayed with it in spite of its challenges find ways to
> >retreat within NAME to affirming sub-groups--while some of this is
> >natural and positive, some of it occurs as an act of avoidance.
> >
> >This avoidance grows when we look at those who have come to NAME but
> >not stayed. Many folks get to NAME and forget that multicultural
> >organizational development work is extraordinarily hard work--they
> >come to NAME with a sense of idealism and forget that NAME is working
> >to chart a challenging new course in trying to walk its talk--folks
> >come and expect to find utopia and when they don't they retreat to
> >other organizations entirely--organizations that represent the
> >identity that they want the most affirmation for when that identity is
> >not represented in NAME as they imagined it would be--when they find
> >they have to fight for that identity in NAME too.
> >
> >Some of us who have come and stayed, as well as some of those who have
> >come and left, fight/have fought only to make NAME but another
> >organization that affirms only that one identity.
> >
> >We all seem to forget--at least from time to time--that the fight in
> >NAME--while it has all the elements of the fight outside of NAME--is
> >also different because we all come to NAME, at least in theory,
> >because we want the fight outside NAME to be different--we come to
> >NAME for rejuvenation and forget that we also have to practice our
> >work with each other (walk our talk) if we are going to become more
> >successful (more skilled) in pushing the outside envelop forward.
> >There is no real role model for what NAME is seeking to accomplish--we
> >are developing the model as we walk it together as unchoreographed as
> >that walking is at times--so we have to come to NAME understanding
> >these complexities and open to only moments of rejuvenation
> >interspersed with hours of continued challenge and struggle. If we do
> >not learn it in NAME, we can not practice it elsewhere.
> >
> >I must be drawing to a close because I start this sentence without any
> >idea of where to take this conversation next, nor how to bring it to a
> >logical conclusion. So I will end, perhaps tangentially, by
> >mentioning the day today--Thanks Giving Day--a day riddled with racist
> >history, and yet a day today that I appreciate because it reminds me
> >to be grateful for what I have--to be attentive to my ongoing Freirian
> >struggle to become more fully human. I am today, as I have been for
> >15 years, grateful to NAME--it is NAME that calls me to remember the
> >racist history of this day and that also reminds me to be thankful for
> >my tremendous good fortune--much of which has come to me through the
> >work of multicultural education.
> >
> >With thankful multicultural spirit,
> >
> >Christine (aka Christie and Chris)
> >???
> >Christine Clark, Ed.D.
> >chriseclark at mac.com
> >702.896.1527 Telephone
> >702.896.4529 Facsimile
> >702.985.6979 Cellular
> >
> >"What are the standards that we have? If we're concerned about
> >unarmed truth--understanding this condition of truth is allowing
> >suffering to speak--and unconditional love--understanding justice is
> >what love looks like in public--then the question is, what suffering
> >voices do we hear...and what kinds of concerns about justice are made
> >manifest...?
> >
> >
> > ?Cornell
> > West
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >_______________________________________________
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>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 14:45:05 -0500
> From: "Dr. Andrew Jackson, Sr." <axj119 at psu.edu>
> Subject: Re: (NAME-MCE) Reflections on the Future of NAME...Continuing
> the Discussion from the 2008 Town Hall Meeting
> To: Christine Clark <chriseclark at mac.com>, torjack at verizon.net
> Cc: Discussion Group <name-mce at nameorg.org>, NAME-MCE
> Message-ID: <1227901505l.1241130l.0l at psu.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Thanks for sharing your thoughts Christine!
>
> On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 10:25 PM, Christine Clark <chriseclark at mac.com>
> wrote:
> >
> Dear NAME Family,
> >
> >I am writing to follow up on the Town Hall Meeting conversation begun
> >at the 2008 NAME Conference. In a way, I am writing to follow up on
> >the myriad conversations that have taken place at every NAME
> >Conference and every NAME Board Meeting since I joined NAME in 1993.
> >
> >After the most recent Town Hall Meeting, I had a somewhat challenging
> >follow up conversation with an outgoing board member--someone with
> >whom I think I basically agree with about the politics of
> >multicultural education--including how these politics are impacting
> >the NAME board and related organizational health--but with whom I have
> >always had a strained interpersonal relationship. Sometimes, it is
> >the tension part of dynamic tension that makes us act--and that is the
> >case here. I am compelled to write this because of the failure to
> >communicate that occurred between me and this outgoing board member a
> >few weeks ago.
> >
> >When I joined the NAME board in 1996 (I think), there were some
> >complex organizational dynamics at play--a tension between white women
> >and black men about how work got done in NAME, as well as a tension
> >between founders and other board members also about how work got done
> >in NAME--there was some overlap between these tensions, but some
> >differences in them as well. Over my time on the board these tensions
> >became less intense as the board became more diverse, as
> >organizational decisions were made to ensure that diversity continued,
> >and as founders became more visibly actively engaged. As many of you
> >know, I fought for things while I was on the board and, in so doing,
> >left more than one board meeting in tears because of how those fights
> >made me feel about NAME and about myself. I had some work to do on me
> >and NAME had some work to do without me--so after my term ended, I
> >dedicated myself to supporting NAME in other ways. No matter how
> >frustrated I have been with NAME, I have stayed involved, and actively
> >so.
> >
> >Before I joined the NAME board, I understand that there were
> >challenging board discussions that led up to sexual orientation
> >finally being added to the organizational mission statement. While I
> >was on the board, but more since I left, I know that there have been
> >some members of the organization who have gone so far as to consult
> >civil rights attorneys to see if, through a loop hole in the by-laws,
> >sexual orientation could be dropped from the NAME mission, and some
> >members of the board who have suggested that the multicultural
> >education of children has nothing to do with sexual orientation. I
> >have heard NAME board members and organizational members who are
> >eloquent in expressing their profound critical consciousness about
> >issues of race and racism, suddenly unable discuss issues of sexual
> >orientation with the same justice-loving spirit because of what "their
> >pastor" said.
> >
> >I have also heard NAME members and board members suggest that NAME
> >founders and, more generally, older people, perhaps especially older
> >black people in NAME, do not "do" anything and, further, have
> >"never"
> >done anything of value or import to the field or to the organization.
> >
> >While I feel despair when I hear these things being said, I know that
> >my NAME friends, some of them my closest NAME friends, are some of the
> >worst offenders on all fronts--my NAME friends are, in fact,
> >homophobic, heterosexist, racist, and agist. The truth is, I am too--
> >I would venture to assert that we all are. What makes us different--
> >as NAME people--from the rest of the ists in the world, is that we
> >came to multicultural education and to NAME because, ostensibly, we
> >recognized the impact of isms on ourselves and others, that this
> >impact was antithetical to justice, and that we could do something to
> >stop this impact and facilitate justice--that we could move ourselves
> >and others to resist and reject these isms and build anew through
> >multicultural education.
> >
> >I am acutely aware that while all issues of majority/minority
> >differences and related prejudice, discrimination, and oppression
> >share certain elements, they are also very different. I understand
> >that it may make movement with respect to sexual orientation more
> >difficult for some if we draw comparisons between the experiences of
> >prejudice and discrimination that people face on the basis of sexual
> >orientation to those that people face on the basis of race. To be
> >sure there are comparisons to be drawn, but if in drawing those
> >comparisons we alienate those who might otherwise become allies, we
> >need to look for alternative arguments to bring folks along--yes, even
> >inside NAME. Isn't that what we do as multicultural educators?
> >
> >I want to acknowledge that I have probably worked harder to build and
> >maintain relationships with founders, older folks, older black folks,
> >and others who struggle with the sexual orientation issue, more than I
> >have with the younger, generally lighter skinned folks (at least those
> >who have continued to attend NAME) who eschew the contributions of
> >NAME elders and seem, to me, to dismiss the obvious link between race
> >and age in assessing these contributions. So, on the one hand, I have
> >prioritized relationships on the basis of affinity for the race-based
> >dimension of multicultural education, but within these relationships,
> >I have pushed folks--sometimes pretty hard--around the sexual
> >orientation issue. On the other hand, I have not made the same effort
> >to engage, in many cases other white people, on the basis of affinity
> >for the sexual orientation-based dimension of multicultural education,
> >and then, while engaged on this topic, push them--with equal fervor--
> >on issues of race, especially from a generational point of entry into
> >debate. I have work to do to honor my commitments to both race and
> >sexual orientation in relationship to my NAME involvements.
> >
> >I also want to mention that I do not believe that the sexual
> >orientation/race schism in NAME or generally is as clear cut as the
> >preceding paragraphs may make it sound. For purposes of discussion
> >here I am sure I have oversimplified it, though not intentionally so.
> >So, if you have depth to add to the conversation here, by all means
> >add it. In writing this I am mindful that no matter how hard I try to
> >be comprehensive in my analysis, I will inevitably miss important
> >points, so please, help me by raising them in reciprocal dialogue.
> >
> >As alluded to above, many people--and many of them people of color--
> >have come to NAME with high expectations and end up walking away in
> >frustration either because of the homophobia and heterosexism OR
> >because of the attention to sexual orientation. We only scratched the
> >surface of this at the Town Hall Meeting, but we need to dig into it
> >much more deeply because if NAME does not successful deal with the
> >meaningful integration of this issue into our organizational practice,
> >we will fail as a multicultural organization.
> >
> >While it is true we may fail for other reasons more related to our
> >failure to grow from an idealistic grassroots childhood into a
> >sophisticated non-profit adulthood (another conversation altogether),
> >
> >part of our waning attendance is because we have not figured out how
> >to DO what we as multicultural educators SAY--we talk our walk very
> >well at least in compartmentalized ways, but we have yet to truly walk
> >our talk--we have the theory down pretty well, but not the practice.
> >I can talk about race and racism at the most sophisticated levels, yet
> >I do not, as alluded to above, exert myself to the extent that I could
> >to engage other white folks at NAME in the examination of these issues
> >as they impact our organizational dynamics. Too, while my very best
> >friend in the world is gay, I do not exert myself to the extent that I
> >could to engage those most hostile to his presence, many of them
> >people of color in leadership roles in NAME, in the effort to make
> >NAME a more affirming place for him to be--yet I implore him to attend
> >the conference every year. So even those of us who have come to NAME
> >and have stayed with it in spite of its challenges find ways to
> >retreat within NAME to affirming sub-groups--while some of this is
> >natural and positive, some of it occurs as an act of avoidance.
> >
> >This avoidance grows when we look at those who have come to NAME but
> >not stayed. Many folks get to NAME and forget that multicultural
> >organizational development work is extraordinarily hard work--they
> >come to NAME with a sense of idealism and forget that NAME is working
> >to chart a challenging new course in trying to walk its talk--folks
> >come and expect to find utopia and when they don't they retreat to
> >other organizations entirely--organizations that represent the
> >identity that they want the most affirmation for when that identity is
> >not represented in NAME as they imagined it would be--when they find
> >they have to fight for that identity in NAME too.
> >
> >Some of us who have come and stayed, as well as some of those who have
> >come and left, fight/have fought only to make NAME but another
> >organization that affirms only that one identity.
> >
> >We all seem to forget--at least from time to time--that the fight in
> >NAME--while it has all the elements of the fight outside of NAME--is
> >also different because we all come to NAME, at least in theory,
> >because we want the fight outside NAME to be different--we come to
> >NAME for rejuvenation and forget that we also have to practice our
> >work with each other (walk our talk) if we are going to become more
> >successful (more skilled) in pushing the outside envelop forward.
> >There is no real role model for what NAME is seeking to accomplish--we
> >are developing the model as we walk it together as unchoreographed as
> >that walking is at times--so we have to come to NAME understanding
> >these complexities and open to only moments of rejuvenation
> >interspersed with hours of continued challenge and struggle. If we do
> >not learn it in NAME, we can not practice it elsewhere.
> >
> >I must be drawing to a close because I start this sentence without any
> >idea of where to take this conversation next, nor how to bring it to a
> >logical conclusion. So I will end, perhaps tangentially, by
> >mentioning the day today--Thanks Giving Day--a day riddled with racist
> >history, and yet a day today that I appreciate because it reminds me
> >to be grateful for what I have--to be attentive to my ongoing Freirian
> >struggle to become more fully human. I am today, as I have been for
> >15 years, grateful to NAME--it is NAME that calls me to remember the
> >racist history of this day and that also reminds me to be thankful for
> >my tremendous good fortune--much of which has come to me through the
> >work of multicultural education.
> >
> >With thankful multicultural spirit,
> >
> >Christine (aka Christie and Chris)
> >???
> >Christine Clark, Ed.D.
> >chriseclark at mac.com
> >702.896.1527 Telephone
> >702.896.4529 Facsimile
> >702.985.6979 Cellular
> >
> >"What are the standards that we have? If we're concerned about
> >unarmed truth--understanding this condition of truth is allowing
> >suffering to speak--and unconditional love--understanding justice is
> >what love looks like in public--then the question is, what suffering
> >voices do we hear...and what kinds of concerns about justice are made
> >manifest...?
> >
> >
> > ?Cornell
> > West
> >
> >
> >
> >
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