(NAME-MCE) GodTube response from Teja
Teja Arboleda
Teja at EntertainingDiversity.com
Sat Feb 16 17:09:24 EST 2008
I appreciate the reflections on the GodTube video link I posted. It almost
doesn't matter who produced it, and who performed in it. What matters to me
is the perpetuation of images of dark skinned people being the bad ones.
This is a world-wide issue, has been for a long time, and will be for
generations. I went to a Catholic school in Japan - we represented 64
nationalities, and whenever we had a Christian based school play, Jesus was
always White and Blond, and Judas always was dark with black hair. In this
particular GodTube video, the dark-skinned man was throwing money at the
White 'victim', and the dark skinned woman sauntered around as 'temptation'.
Even James Earl Jones who I interviewed for PBS years ago said that as a
Black man, it's important to get powerful roles, like any actor should, but
the consistency of Black characters who are bad is overwhelming, worldwide.
Check out Japan and Germany - you'll know what I'm talking about. So, let's
switch it around. Do you think this video would have been as acceptable and
effective to the general public if the 'victim' was the Black woman, better
yet, the Black man, or the Black man throwing the money around played our
main character, the savior? Probably not because the world is taught
differently. It is OUR job as educators to look at all media critically
because we HAVE to. I'm not saying the producers did any of this
intentionally, nor am saying they are bad, irresponsible or even racist
people. Just unaware.
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> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:11:42 -0500
> From: "McKevitt, Susan" <SMcKevitt at ed.state.nh.us>
> Subject: Re: (NAME-MCE) Godtube video
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> Hi Steve, it would be interesting to know what the producers had in mind other
> than what was to me the obvious which is religion (not sure which one was
> being portrayed, my ignorance showing) saves people from despair, drugs, self
> abuse, etc. The fact that the side of "evil" was portrayed by both white
> skinned and people of color leads me to believe color was not an issue with
> these actors. Perhaps Teja saw it that way (was that your point Teja?)
> because of the way we here in the state see the world, through race sensitive
> eyes and consciousness.
> Thanks!
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> Behalf Of Crawford Steve
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>
> Greetings, Teja,
>
> I read with interest your post about the Godtube.com video. My
> comments here focus specifically on this video and not on Godtube.com
> in general because I have no prior experience with this website. I
> hope that you realize that this video was performed in another
> cultural context. This church and its members are located in Turku,
> Finland. You ask if America sees what is "obvious" here. What could
> possibly be so obvious when viewing such a production cross-
> culturally? I agree that in the USA race and ethnicity is often
> portrayed in unfair and stereotypical ways. But these perceptions and
> related lenses do not transfer cross-culturally by assumption. What
> peoples do and think in the USA can have little meaning in another
> culture, or another meaning entirely!
>
> I would not want to speculate about the motives or values of the local
> producers of this skit and I have no idea who wrote the skit or where
> it originated from. I cannot speak directly to the scriptwriters or
> the producers. In short I do not know much about this particular
> phenomenon. For us to preemptively condemn this skit and its actors
> based on our own "American" points of view would of course be
> culturally-centric, and there appears to be no opportunity on this
> forum for a defense by the accused. As a long time resident of Finland
> I have observed Finns (there are always some exceptions) to be
> extremely tolerant and uncritical of others, which I compare favorably
> with my experiences and observations in the USA. We Americans seem
> rather quick to the punch these days and the idea that something could
> be so obvious to Americans as a group I find an odd assumption. I
> would like not to take a reductionist approach in this case, things
> are never so simple as they might seem, and would suggest that the
> accused be allowed to speak on their own behalf. Such a dialogue could
> in fact be quite constructive, and in this manner meaning can be
> negotiated and not imposed by one upon the other.
>
> If you are open to such a dialogue I would be pleased to attempt to
> help arrange this with the producers of this video from this side of
> the chasm.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Steve Crawford
> Jyv?skyl?, Finland
>
> On Feb 14, 2008, at 4:19 PM, name-mce-request at nameorg.org wrote:
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 12:48:08 -0500
>> From: Teja Arboleda <Teja at EntertainingDiversity.com>
>> Subject: (NAME-MCE) God Tube makes it clear that dark skin is bad
>> To: <name-mce at nameorg.org>
>> Message-ID: <C3D89788.AC06%Teja at EntertainingDiversity.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
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>> God Tube.com just reminded us that our work is cut out for us. Does
>> America
>> see the obvious? This musical interpretive dance of good VS evil is a
>> reminder of how entrenched white/black and good/evil interpretations
>> are
>> still significant in drama, television, Hollywood, Disney, Broadway
>> and in
>> the minds of the young. Take a look:
>> http://www.godtube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ee73e63418003b47d7d5
>>
>> --
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> Nova recently produced a program on Percy Julian. I believe the DVD is now
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> See the Nova website below for more details.
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> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/julian/
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> Indian Education -- Demonstration Grants for Indian Children
> (Federal Register: February 6, 2008 [CFDA# 84.299A])
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> Purpose of Program: The purpose of the Demonstration Grants for
> Indian Children program is to provide financial assistance to
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> services and programs to improve the educational opportunities and
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> Deadline for Transmittal of Applications: March 7, 2008.
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> elementary or secondary schools for Indian students; Indian
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> Estimated Available Funds: $1,600,000.
> Estimated Range of Awards: $100,000-$300,000.
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> FYI - The 2007 workshops for teachers across the nation look wonderful and I
> was thinking of doing some of them in the area however, its 2007 dates so I
> think they're all over. There is a schedule coming out for 2008 soon.
> Thanks.
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>> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:46:25 +0200
>> From: Crawford Steve <stevecrawford at mac.com>
>> Subject: (NAME-MCE) Godtube video
>> To: name-mce at nameorg.org
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>> Greetings, Teja,
>>
>> I read with interest your post about the Godtube.com video. My
>> comments here focus specifically on this video and not on Godtube.com
>> in general because I have no prior experience with this website. I
>> hope that you realize that this video was performed in another
>> cultural context. This church and its members are located in Turku,
>> Finland. You ask if America sees what is "obvious" here. What could
>> possibly be so obvious when viewing such a production cross-
>> culturally? I agree that in the USA race and ethnicity is often
>> portrayed in unfair and stereotypical ways. But these perceptions and
>> related lenses do not transfer cross-culturally by assumption. What
>> peoples do and think in the USA can have little meaning in another
>> culture, or another meaning entirely!
>>
>> I would not want to speculate about the motives or values of the local
>> producers of this skit and I have no idea who wrote the skit or where
>> it originated from. I cannot speak directly to the scriptwriters or
>> the producers. In short I do not know much about this particular
>> phenomenon. For us to preemptively condemn this skit and its actors
>> based on our own "American" points of view would of course be
>> culturally-centric, and there appears to be no opportunity on this
>> forum for a defense by the accused. As a long time resident of Finland
>> I have observed Finns (there are always some exceptions) to be
>> extremely tolerant and uncritical of others, which I compare favorably
>> with my experiences and observations in the USA. We Americans seem
>> rather quick to the punch these days and the idea that something could
>> be so obvious to Americans as a group I find an odd assumption. I
>> would like not to take a reductionist approach in this case, things
>> are never so simple as they might seem, and would suggest that the
>> accused be allowed to speak on their own behalf. Such a dialogue could
>> in fact be quite constructive, and in this manner meaning can be
>> negotiated and not imposed by one upon the other.
>>
>> If you are open to such a dialogue I would be pleased to attempt to
>> help arrange this with the producers of this video from this side of
>> the chasm.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Steve Crawford
>> Jyv?skyl?, Finland
>>
>> On Feb 14, 2008, at 4:19 PM, name-mce-request at nameorg.org wrote:
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>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 12:48:08 -0500
>>> From: Teja Arboleda <Teja at EntertainingDiversity.com>
>>> Subject: (NAME-MCE) God Tube makes it clear that dark skin is bad
>>> To: <name-mce at nameorg.org>
>>> Message-ID: <C3D89788.AC06%Teja at EntertainingDiversity.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>>>
>>> God Tube.com just reminded us that our work is cut out for us. Does
>>> America
>>> see the obvious? This musical interpretive dance of good VS evil is a
>>> reminder of how entrenched white/black and good/evil interpretations
>>> are
>>> still significant in drama, television, Hollywood, Disney, Broadway
>>> and in
>>> the minds of the young. Take a look:
>>> http://www.godtube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ee73e63418003b47d7d5
>>>
>>> --
>>> There is no box.
>>>
>>> Teja Arboleda, M.Ed.
>>> Entertaining Diversity, Inc.
>>> PO Box 126, Dedham, MA 02027
>>> (781) 329-7040
>>>
>>> Member: National Association for Multicultural Education (NAME)
>>> Member: Alliance for a Media Literate America (AMLA)
>>> Member: Filmmakers Collaborative
>>
>>
>>
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There is no box.
Teja Arboleda, M.Ed.
Entertaining Diversity, Inc.
PO Box 126, Dedham, MA 02027
(781) 329-7040
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