(NAME-MCE) Wafa Sultan
Elaine Haglund
ehaglund at csulb.edu
Wed Nov 7 07:50:47 EST 2007
Dear Sue,
I can't thank you enough for such a beautifully, well reasoned
response—on both a professional and personal level. I reacted very
similarly and deeply appreciate the exceptional way in which you
managed to express yourself.
P.S. And thank, you, Gina, for the spirit in which I believe you
launched the very interesting posting!
Elaine Haglund
Calif. State Univ., Long Beach
On Nov 6, 2007, at 5:55 AM, McKevitt, Susan wrote:
>
>
> I do not often contribute to discussions on this list although I read
> comments. I am making an exception this time and wish to comment
> not on
> the posting itself but rather on our list behavior.
>
> I found how the list discussion about the Wafa Sultan posting a bit
> distressing and here is my thinking.
>
> I come from a place of not knowing everything. I come from a place
> where
> I wish a community of similarly thinking people can exchange ideas
> without fear of being labeled in some way or other, or for assumptions
> to be made about what I think and how I think. The most recent posting
> on Wafa Sultan elicited some responses on this list that felt personal
> and hostile. The fact that contributors to the list may have more
> information than the person who posted is exactly the point of the
> list
> as far as I'm concerned. We should be here to support and educate each
> other, not dump on each other. I can get that from anywhere else I
> go. I
> do not expect it from here. If I can not feel comfortable exposing my
> inadequate knowledge with this group, then I suggest people take a
> very
> good look in the mirror. We are great at espousing how everyone else
> should behave when having potentially contentious discussions and
> bemoan
> the fact that those conversations seem not able to happen, and then of
> course blame the participants for their failure. These last exchanges
> on the list feel like some of us do not hold ourselves to the same
> standard we expect from others.
>
> Relative to the immediate string of postings, those who know (like the
> gentleman below) could have simply stated that Sultan has been on many
> times before and that women are well represented on Al Jazeera. That
> would have been both educational and objective, leaving the person who
> posted (and the rest of us) better informed and personally whole.
>
> Please, let us be a bit more compassionate in our disagreements; more
> understanding of the differing levels of knowledge of the members
> of the
> list and hopefully be assuming that we are all working towards the
> same
> goal.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Sue
> "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that
> matter" Dr. Martin Luther King
> Susan McKevitt
> New Hampshire Department of Education
> 21 South Fruit St. Suite 20
> Concord, NH 03301
> phone: 603-271-6613 fax: 603-271-4079
> email: smckevitt at ed.state.nh.us
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: name-mce-bounces at nameorg.org [mailto:name-mce-
> bounces at nameorg.org]
> On Behalf Of Ayouby, Kenneth K
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 10:32 PM
> To: NAME-MCE - National Association for Multicultural
> EducationEmailDiscussion Group; name-mce at nameorg.org
> Cc: luby at connecting-cultures.net
> Subject: Re: (NAME-MCE) Wafa Sultan
>
>
>
> Ms. Boltz,
>
> I find your comments even more disturbing now. Aljazeera News Network
> has at least half of its broadcasters to be women. Also, they are
> based
> in Doha, Qatar--not Dubai, which is in the UAE. Additionally, women of
> all political, religious and ethnic-national backgrounds are always
> guests on some show or another on that channel. I think you have
> succumbed to many of the prejudices and stereotypes that are
> perpetrated
> in our American culture vis a vis Arabs, Muslims and other associated
> people.
>
> By the way, Ms. Sultan has been interviewed on Aljazeera more than
> a few
> times. Nonetheless, (as we all know), interviewing someone on TV does
> not make that person's thoughts or ideas valid.
>
> Kenneth K. Ayouby
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: name-mce-bounces at nameorg.org on behalf of KispokoT at aol.com
> Sent: Mon 11/5/2007 11:00 AM
> To: name-mce at nameorg.org
> Cc: luby at connecting-cultures.net
> Subject: Re: (NAME-MCE) Wafa Sultan
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Greetings Ms. Shalal-Esa,
>
> My message did not not to endorse or reprove Ms.Sultan's
> comments. My
> message was posted simply to share the fact that Al-Jazerra
> television
> provided
> ground-breaking air-time to a woman, then allowed her to say these
> kinds of
> things. From what I'm told from friends who visited and/or lived in
> Dubai, this
> is a huge step in recognizing women and allowing for open dialogue
> debate.
>
> Please don't let my posting reflect on the credibility of this
> listserve
> or
> the people on it.
>
> Gina Boltz
> Director, Native Village Publications
> Director, Youth Forum for The International Council of Thirteen
> Indigenous
> Grandmothers
> _http://www.nativevillage.org_ <http://www.nativevillage.org_/>
> (http://www.nativevillage.org <http://www.nativevillage.org/> )
> Secretary/Treasurer, Link Center Foundation
> _www.linkcenterfoundation.org_ (http://www.linkcenterfoundation.org
> <http://www.linkcenterfoundation.org/> )
>
>
>
> In a message dated 11/5/2007 6:47:42 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> ashalalesa at hotmail.com writes:
>
>
>
> Dear Fellow Listserve members,
>
> I am shocked that a member of this listserve, which I have always
> cherished
> and recommended to others, would encourage the dissemination of the
> diatribe
> being spewed out by this woman, Wafa al-Sultan. What she is doing and
> saying
> in no way contributes to any understanding or tolerance of fellow
> human
> beings. Her statements are clearly anti-Muslim propaganda and they
> are
> deeply
> offensive to those of use who are working for peace and justice in
> the
> world.
> Many of this woman's statements are also just plain wrong,
> misinformed
> and
> designed to further deepen the artificial chasm being created between
> Christians,
> Jews and Muslims by right wing media to help fan the flames of war.
>
> Please, please, consider starting a dialogue with Muslims in your
> community
> to get the real truth. You can find many good resources on the
> website
> www.dialoguesforpeace.org, including the opportunity to receive a PBS
> documentary
> for free to help facilitate a real dialogue about these issues.
>
> Andrea Shalal-Esa
> Journalist
> Westminster, MD
>
>
>
>> From: KispokoT at aol.com> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 14:46:42 -0400> To:
> name-mce at nameorg.org> Subject: (NAME-MCE) Wafa Sultan> > > >
> Greetings,> > A good
> friend sent this link (and note) to me. I thought NAME members
> might >
> be
> interested in seeing it.> > Gina Boltz > Director, Native Village
> Publications >
> Director, Youth Forum for The International Council of Thirteen
> Indigenous >
> Grandmothers > _http://www.nativevillage.org_
> <http://www.nativevillage.org_/> (http://www.nativevillage.org
> <http://www.nativevillage.org/> ) >
> Secretary/Treasurer, Link Center Foundation >
> _www.linkcenterfoundation.org_
> (http://www.linkcenterfoundation.org
> <http://www.linkcenterfoundation.org/> ) > > > > WATCH THIS BEFORE
> IT'S
> TAKEN
> OFF THE WEB > It is extremely surprising that the Arab financed TV in
> Dubai
> would allow > this to air. > This is one impressive, empowered Arabic
> human
> being , who happens to be > female ! Here is a powerful and amazing
> statement on
> Al Jazeera television. > The woman is Wafa Sultan, an Arab-American
> psychologist from Los Angeles. I > would suggest watching it ASAP
> because I don't
> know how long the link will be > active. > This film clip should be
> shown around
> the world repeatedly! >
> _http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?ai=214&ar=1050wmv&ak=nul_ >
> (http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?ai=214&ar=1050wmv&ak=nul)
> > > >
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