(NAME-MCE) Wafa Sultan

Tue Nov 6 17:12:16 EST 2007

Well said Susan. This ListServ should be a safe place to learn and grow.
Hopefully this past exchange will not further frighten away those who want
to test ideas and theories. Can we not separate out those who are malicious
versus those like Gina who have contributed greatly to this ListServ and
just want to become more educated? People - we need to gain and cultivate
allies. This should have been a teachable moment.

On Nov 6, 2007 8:55 AM, McKevitt, Susan <SMcKevitt at ed.state.nh.us> wrote:

>
>
> I do not often contribute to discussions on this list although I read
> comments. I am making an exception this time and wish to comment not on
> the posting itself but rather on our list behavior.
>
> I found how the list discussion about the Wafa Sultan posting a bit
> distressing and here is my thinking.
>
> I come from a place of not knowing everything. I come from a place where
> I wish a community of similarly thinking people can exchange ideas
> without fear of being labeled in some way or other, or for assumptions
> to be made about what I think and how I think. The most recent posting
> on Wafa Sultan elicited some responses on this list that felt personal
> and hostile. The fact that contributors to the list may have more
> information than the person who posted is exactly the point of the list
> as far as I'm concerned. We should be here to support and educate each
> other, not dump on each other. I can get that from anywhere else I go. I
> do not expect it from here. If I can not feel comfortable exposing my
> inadequate knowledge with this group, then I suggest people take a very
> good look in the mirror. We are great at espousing how everyone else
> should behave when having potentially contentious discussions and bemoan
> the fact that those conversations seem not able to happen, and then of
> course blame the participants for their failure.  These last exchanges
> on the list feel like some of us do not hold ourselves to the same
> standard we expect from others.
>
> Relative to the immediate string of postings, those who know (like the
> gentleman below) could have simply stated that Sultan has been on many
> times before and that women are well represented on Al Jazeera. That
> would have been both educational and objective, leaving the person who
> posted (and the rest of us) better informed and personally whole.
>
> Please, let us be a bit more compassionate in our disagreements; more
> understanding of the differing levels of knowledge of the members of the
> list and hopefully be assuming that we are all working towards the same
> goal.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Sue
> "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that
> matter" Dr. Martin Luther King
> Susan McKevitt
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: name-mce-bounces at nameorg.org [mailto:name-mce-bounces at nameorg.org]
> On Behalf Of Ayouby, Kenneth K
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 10:32 PM
> To: NAME-MCE - National Association for Multicultural
> EducationEmailDiscussion Group; name-mce at nameorg.org
> Cc: luby at connecting-cultures.net
> Subject: Re: (NAME-MCE) Wafa Sultan
>
>
>
> Ms. Boltz,
>
> I find your comments even more disturbing now. Aljazeera News Network
> has at least half of its broadcasters to be women. Also, they are based
> in Doha, Qatar--not Dubai, which is in the UAE. Additionally, women of
> all political, religious and ethnic-national backgrounds are always
> guests on some show or another on that channel. I think you have
> succumbed to many of the prejudices and stereotypes that are perpetrated
> in our American culture vis a vis Arabs, Muslims and other associated
> people.
>
> By the way, Ms. Sultan has been interviewed on Aljazeera more than a few
> times. Nonetheless, (as we all know), interviewing someone on TV does
> not make that person's thoughts or ideas valid.
>
> Kenneth K. Ayouby
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: name-mce-bounces at nameorg.org on behalf of KispokoT at aol.com
> Sent: Mon 11/5/2007 11:00 AM
> To: name-mce at nameorg.org
> Cc: luby at connecting-cultures.net
> Subject: Re: (NAME-MCE) Wafa Sultan
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Greetings Ms. Shalal-Esa,
>
> My message did not not to endorse or reprove Ms.Sultan's  comments.  My
> message was posted simply to share the fact that  Al-Jazerra television
> provided
> ground-breaking air-time to a woman, then allowed  her to say these
> kinds of
> things. From what I'm told from friends who  visited and/or lived in
> Dubai, this
> is a huge step in recognizing women and  allowing for open dialogue
> debate.
>
> Please don't let my posting reflect on the credibility of this listserve
> or
> the people on it.
>
> Gina Boltz
> Director, Native Village Publications
> Director, Youth Forum for The International Council of Thirteen
> Indigenous
> Grandmothers
> _http://www.nativevillage.org_ <http://www.nativevillage.org_/>
> (http://www.nativevillage.org <http://www.nativevillage.org/> )
> Secretary/Treasurer, Link Center Foundation
> _www.linkcenterfoundation.org_ (http://www.linkcenterfoundation.org
> <http://www.linkcenterfoundation.org/> )
>
>
>
> In a message dated 11/5/2007 6:47:42 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> ashalalesa at hotmail.com writes:
>
>
>
> Dear Fellow Listserve members,
>
> I am shocked that a  member of this listserve, which I have always
> cherished
> and recommended to  others, would encourage the dissemination of the
> diatribe
> being spewed out by  this woman, Wafa al-Sultan. What she is doing and
> saying
> in no way contributes  to any understanding or tolerance of fellow human
> beings. Her statements are  clearly anti-Muslim propaganda and they are
> deeply
> offensive to those of use  who are working for peace and justice in the
> world.
> Many of this woman's  statements are also just plain wrong, misinformed
> and
> designed to further  deepen the artificial chasm being created between
> Christians,
> Jews and Muslims  by right wing media to help fan the flames of war.
>
> Please, please,  consider starting a dialogue with Muslims in your
> community
> to get the real  truth. You can find many good resources on the website
> www.dialoguesforpeace.org, including the opportunity to receive a PBS
> documentary
> for free to help facilitate a real dialogue about these  issues.
>
> Andrea Shalal-Esa
> Journalist
> Westminster, MD
>
>
>
> > From: KispokoT at aol.com> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 14:46:42  -0400> To:
> name-mce at nameorg.org> Subject: (NAME-MCE) Wafa Sultan>  > > >
> Greetings,> > A good
> friend sent this link (and note) to  me. I thought NAME members might >
> be
> interested in seeing it.> >  Gina Boltz > Director, Native Village
> Publications >
> Director, Youth  Forum for The International Council of Thirteen
> Indigenous >
> Grandmothers  > _http://www.nativevillage.org_
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> Secretary/Treasurer, Link Center Foundation >
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> <http://www.linkcenterfoundation.org/> ) > >  > > WATCH THIS BEFORE IT'S
> TAKEN
> OFF THE WEB > It is extremely  surprising that the Arab financed TV in
> Dubai
> would allow > this to air.  > This is one impressive, empowered Arabic
> human
> being , who happens to be  > female ! Here is a powerful and amazing
> statement on
> Al Jazeera  television. > The woman is Wafa Sultan, an Arab-American
> psychologist from  Los Angeles. I > would suggest watching it ASAP
> because I don't
> know how  long the link will be > active. > This film clip should be
> shown around
>  the world repeatedly! >
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